Старшая группа. Дети 5–6 лет. С начала года привели мальчика с явными отклонениями: он не говорит, он не агрессивный, но любит тишину. Во время тихого часа он молчит, другие дети не спят, он кукаракает и т. п. Это лишь часть того, что я заметила: воспитатель кажется не справляется — всё внимание сосредоточено на этом ребёнке, она устала и откровенно рассказала одной маме. Впрочем, воспитатель очень хорошая, но сейчас она разрывается между этим мальчиком и 29 обычными детьми. Мальчика, как я поняла, привели из другого садика, где их благополучно сбагрили в наш. Мальчику явно нужен тьютор, а не вот этот вот. Я искренне не понимаю родителей: зачем явные отклонения, зачем водить в обычный сад. Простите, если не так, но я за комфорт дочери: сейчас воспитатель действительно уделяет внимание этому мальчику, а не занятиям с другими детьми.
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Proskurnina Irina
How did they even place him in a regular group? Maybe the diagnosis isn't official, which is why he comes across as a healthy child.
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Maya
So, did you ask about the diagnosis, or something like that?
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Irina
Proskurnina Irina There, his behavior speaks for itself, and at age 6 he doesn't speak.
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Prividenie
Most likely the parents won't admit that something might be wrong with their child 🤷️; they may still hope that, by looking at other children, their child will improve.

I often see similar situations on forums; it seems this is a common issue in kindergartens and schools these days.
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Irina
Maya Everything is visible there.
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Elena
Put the folding bed in the play area and leave it there. If nothing else is bothering you, you should go out to get some air. A tutor: how can they help if the child vocalizes? They won’t be able to quiet him.
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Maya
Maya It's understandable what you're seeing. Educators' views on the diagnosis: whether it's officially confirmed. Children with a diagnosis are usually placed into special groups.
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Olga
Which city are you from? Specialized kindergartens aren't available everywhere, and there are even fewer tutors, but you still have to work just as hard as parents of ordinary children.
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Maya
Maya If there is no official diagnosis, educators are obliged to relay the information to the polyclinic's head, and so on, if they clearly see that this is an unusual child. Your view has no bearing on this.
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Irina
Prividenie There are three kids in our group who stand out, but they’ve been with us since the nursery, and their progress is evident.
I think we should either move them to kindergarten right away, or place them in one-on-one instruction. Why should the others have to suffer?
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Shashkova Anna
Does your child have a diagnosis? We all need tutors right away.
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Irina
Olga In Yekaterinburg, we have everything you need.
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Natalya
Because of a boy like this, I quit my job after 15 years. I also don't understand parents who don't take responsibility and simply hand their child over to kindergarten, and as a result other children and teachers suffer. They aren't prepared for such children, especially when working in a public kindergarten rather than a special-needs one.
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Irina
Сделать с этим ничего не важно, если только подружиться с мамой помочь и получить заключение ЦПМПК. И получить тьютора. Никак невозможно на это повлиять, почему мама его привела представляете насколько у неё съезжает крыша с ним находясь 24 на семь.. Из специализированных садов по городу не насыпано, как раньше. Их по сути дела нет. Есть только интернет в пятидневке
Krivtsova Ekaterina
The parents are interesting, but the child could benefit from some guidance.
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Natalya
Parents often have nowhere to turn as well. For many years, activists have fiercely fought against specialized children's facilities, from boarding schools to special education schools and kindergartens. Now the unpopular institutions have been closed one after another, and they have proclaimed that these children are just like any others and can attend ordinary kindergartens and schools. Providing tutors for everyone would require more money and more tutors than the country has.
A sad situation.
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Irina
Proskurnina Irina Inclusion has been introduced.
It was taken from Europe…
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Maya
Maya Of course, I understand. My niece isn’t speaking yet at age five; she also mumbles and makes noises. She isn’t taken to kindergarten and is constantly in rehabilitation centers, and she has an official diagnosis of a disability.
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Natalya
Maya Educators do not have the right to discuss a child's diagnosis with random women, even if they know the diagnosis.
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Prividenie
Prividenie I won't excuse them either. I also believe that children with behavioral differences should be placed in remedial groups.
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Kristina
Proskurnina Irina And they have no right to refuse admission 🤷️ At present, any child, with any diagnosis, must be admitted to kindergarten or school, and parents have the right not to provide documents, even if there is a disability. What is currently presented as inclusion, of course, has nothing to do with it; it's simply a cost-saving measure.
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Proskurnina Irina
Back in my school, up to the fourth grade, there was a girl who used crutches; her legs were turned in different directions, her eyes wandered, and she didn't speak. I don't know what diagnosis she had. She sat in the front rows with her mother beside her—a poor, thin, exhausted mother. In the end, this girl always slowed down the whole class. For example, when we walked from school as a class to the cinema, we waited for her; without her we weren't allowed in. And for a moment it was a linguistic gymnasium, meaning it wasn't easy to get in there. But afterwards she stopped attending class, perhaps she was transferred.

So I understand the teacher's perspective, but you here can't help and won't fix anything.

Just move on to attending kindergarten, and that's that.
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Irina
Prividenie There are different kids; we have three children—a boy and two girls. They develop a bit more slowly, and their development is about a year or two behind.
But they have been with us since the nursery, and the other kids are friendly with them; they are treated as equals. And here, a child has been thrust into an established social circle, plus a diagnosis 😥 Our kids are friendly, and the girl is Uzbek; she doesn't speak Russian at all, but the other kids are drawn to her.
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Katerina
Proskurnina Irina Currently, PMPK assessments are voluntary, as are special kindergartens. And some parents don't want to see obvious problems in their child. Then—worse still, such children are pushed into mainstream schools....
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Irina
Maya I won't discuss this with the educator. She understands everything herself.
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