Суть такая: в декабре мы затопили соседей. Их квартира сдается. Шланг лопнул (воды изначально не было, потом напор поднялся — он лопнул, хотя внешне всё выглядело нормально). Соседи снизу уже сделали ремонт. Мы будем ставить сушку, чтобы высушить стены — они, по всей видимости, из гипсокартона. Мебель, слава богу, пока что не привезли. Я сразу позвонила соседке, спросила о масштабе: она ответила, что затронуто всё — потолок, полы и стены. Мы решили нанять специалистов по сушке; чтобы высушить стены, в которых, как оказалось, всё из гипсокартона. Я сказала: делайте, нанимайте, мы заплатим, если это поможет снизить объём ремонта. Она сама не хочет переделывать большой ремонт. Говорите, будете ли вы нанимать профи? Да и вообще: как идти дальше — суд, экспертиза? Если она сделает свою экспертизу, а мы потребуем другую, судебную — будет ли это иметь смысл? Или если они сделают, суд примет их экспертизу? В общем, надеюсь решить всё мирно, но понятия не имею, какой там ущерб. Квартира 24 кв. м, тип малосемейки. Вот думаю, на какую сумму может выйти залив. Она молчит, может, сушат, а может и другие причины. Кто с такими сталкивался — расскажите подробнее. 10 лет сдаём квартиры — впервые такое. Иду думать: стоит ли застраховать подобные случаи.
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Lada
If the apartment isn't large and the renovation is expensive, I don't think it will exceed 500.
Please call again yourself… you might be lucky if, for example, the walls are plastered.
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Evgeniya777
Is her apartment insured? If anything happens, her insurance will cover everything.
Was the damage report prepared during the flooding?
Please write to her yourself and ask; it's better to sort this out between yourselves, it's in your best interests.
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chukavina tatyana
Please call in yourself and ask what to do and how.
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Vorobev Olga
Before going to court, she must obtain a pre-trial assessment (inviting you to an inspection). Based on this, she will send you a pre-trial claim, and if you do not respond, she will go to court with the same documents. If you do not attend court, the court will rule in her favor. If you attend and say that you disagree with the assessment, the court will appoint an expert, and you will have to pay for it. The court will then issue a decision in line with the expert’s finding, unless you attempt to challenge it.
She may carry out repairs and not wait for the end of the court proceedings. If the apartment is small and not built with premium materials, the repairs will not exceed 500 thousand.
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chukavina tatyana
chukavina tatyana But ideally we should have gone to them and seen the scale of the disaster; words alone could tell you a lot.
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Yana
Perhaps it dried out, and it turned out the damage wasn't that bad after all.
There was panic at first, but in reality we managed it with our own efforts.
Please write to her again, and tell her that you are available if needed and always ready to communicate.
And the tenants did not communicate with them?

When the neighbor upstairs flooded us, we were in the middle of renovations.
The stretch ceiling partly saved us; it sagged to the floor in a bubble, but the aerated-concrete walls soaked to the base, and in the bathroom we are still dealing with mold after four years.
Then the neighbor at the door started in, saying, 'Well, since your renovation here isn't that great, the laminate is old and the furniture isn't very good, I have no claims against me'.
Fortunately, his wife turned out to be reasonable and also looked after us.
We decided to resolve it amicably with her.
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lyutikova elena
Vorobev Olga 500 is actually not a small amount. I understand that I am not obliged to wait for the court's ruling, but if we disagree with the assessment and want another expert examination, isn't she the one who has to wait?
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lyutikova elena
chukavina tatyana My husband went in right away. There, of course, it's on a grand scale. But part of it will dry after drying. At least, the walls
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lyutikova elena
Evgeniya777 The act was, of course, drawn up, but without us. She isn't insured, or I don't know about it.
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lyutikova elena
Lada No, drywall, damn. 500 is a lot☹️☹️☹️
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lyutikova elena
Yana I think it might not be so bad after the drying. In the first few hours, of course, it was awful. If it's not a secret, how much compensation did you receive?
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Lada
Lada Renovations are expensive right now; we've spent 3 million, and some furniture still remains unfinished.
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chukavina tatyana
chukavina tatyana Then you call yourselves.
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Vorobev Olga
Vorobev Olga No, I am not obligated. The court expert will conduct an examination of the case materials. The main document is the act from the criminal case. You should review it thoroughly. You should have been present during its preparation and also sign it.
500 — that is Moscow. In Rostov, I don't know; it's hard to say about prices, but the work is always expensive.
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Ulyana
We flooded three of our neighbors' floors. One neighbor said her apartment has older renovations and she doesn't want anything done. The other two apartments estimated they would need 10,000 to replace the laminate. They obtained written acknowledgments from them that they have no complaints.
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lyutikova elena
Ulyana Darn, you’re really lucky!
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lyutikova elena
Vorobev Olga We weren't invited; she later said that it had been compiled.
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lyutikova elena
chukavina tatyana I'll wait one more week and then I'll call.
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lyutikova elena
Lada Three million in compensation? I know how much the repair costs; we also have repairs. Compensation is a different matter.
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Lada
Lada If receipts total 500, that's exactly what you'll hand over. We had friends take us to court over a repair, because all the receipts were for both the work and + compensation, since they didn't want to pay.
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Vorobev Olga
Vorobev Olga It's the management company's fault. They should have notified you. Go to the management company and ask for a copy. Then it will be more or less clear
Hasn't your neighbor sent you the photo?
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lyutikova elena
Vorobev Olga No, I'll go. Thank you!
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lyutikova elena
Lada Of course, if the checks are for that amount, there's nothing we can do. But I strongly doubt they'll be for that amount.
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Vorobev Olga
Vorobev Olga You're welcome 🙏🏼 May everything be resolved peacefully 💐🫶 If you need anything, feel free to write to me. I'll tell you what I can.
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Lada
Lada Maybe they did it on their own; if that's the case, then ...
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Tatyana
You should have come in person, spoken with us, and assessed the damage. Please contact the management company and have it documented with an official report.
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lyutikova elena
Tatyana My husband was here; I saw him.
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lyutikova elena
Lada No, they have a contractor. But the apartment is 24 m², and they spent around a million rubles, including plumbing and tiling, remodeling, wall demolition, and so on. There’s no way it could be 500k; that would only be the case if everything were torn out.
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lyutikova elena
Vorobev Olga Yes, we want to handle this peacefully, and I think she wants that too. Going to court won't be interesting to her at all. The apartment is in my father's name; he is a retiree, and they will be paying her back for a very long time by deducting from his pension.
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Yana
Yana У нас обоев нет и не было, стены крашеные. И им повезло что мы не успели на тот момент покрасить новой краской. Потолок они меняли нам в одной комнате (кухня) за свой счет и гидрогерметизацию санузла делали на будущее. Там вышло по ценам 2021г тысяч 12-15. — полотно потолка+работа и пару ведер герметика (муж сам замазывал). И то потому что жена соседа душечка и мы с ней по человечески решили вопрос. Потому что сосед сам — говнарь редкостный, не скрывал своей радости что у нас тут не миллионные ремонты и можно не переживать. Полы у нас были старые и все равно под замену, иначе писос ламинату был бы. Его счастье что он не пролил насквозь нас и мы быстро воду вычерпали, под нам семья армян живёт и вот там дорого-богатый ремонт (классический армянский ампир). Я тогда свою квартиру тоже застраховала. Плачу 600 руб./мес страховку и сплю спокойно.

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